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    Big tangent but I thought I’d like to introduce this work of mine…(NSFW, turn up speakers)

    http://www.totalrelease.org

    In terms of queer-or-not fantasy, this is not quite glitch art, and not with the glitch aesthetic per se-it’s almost like a satire of satire if I queer spam about spam… many viewers (particularly male) couldn’t tell the difference between this and any other spam page, which is either a win for looking vernacular or a failure to deviate enough within a system of meanings.

    I’m always amused by the rhetoric of viagra/sex performance campaigns which are always targeted at men. I kind of even love the hyperbole. So I made this hoaky spam site for a fake DVD program on erotic self-hypnosis for achieving endless orgasms, which is kind of a fetish/fad/spam of its own on the web.  I copied http://www.malemultiorgasm.com/ and changed the language so that it was gender neutral.

    I noticed how sexual enhancement ads and spam on the web seem to valuate orgasm and orgasm-giving as the highest form of pleasure, or sexual activity then as the greatest kind of personal liberation, the greatest self-improvement.  (While I don’t condemn sex or promiscuity, I contest these for being reasons to seek sexual pleasure as much as possible)

    Maybe a big problem (as it always is) is showing a woman in the throws of orgasm and having her be a fetish object. I don’t agree with removing sexuality from anyone either and I liked that she was enjoying herself without any kind of apparent sexual action.

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    I think the conversation is moving in the direction of addressing the disparity between the glitch aesthetic and its potential for critical “deconstruction” of isolated images and looped scenes. I have a feeling this idea isn’t new. In video/moving image I suppose this depends on the degree of transformation, distortion and abstraction.

    Maybe we can “break this down”, and I’m being hypothetical:

    Example 1:

    If something of one sex is “glitched” such that it is undiscernable (that you only see an arm or a leg, the side of a face for example), is that a successful way to queer or disrupt gender?

    Example 2:
    from http://porn-glitch.tumblr.com/

    If one employs a single image and “glitches” it to complete abstraction, does it matter what the original image was at all? (I’m thinking this theory of new materialism would argue that if it is really all pixels that can transform into physical/non-physical things, none of the semiotic/semantic theory we have of images would apply. This to me is a huge crutch for ignoring social context. Then again, I don’t fully understand New Materialism.) This follows the logic of “If the (average tumblr follower) viewer doesn’t know, then it doesn’t matter. Well then why choose porn in the first place at all when it can be anything else?

    Personally I find some of the more completely abstract, pulsating and undulating gifs more erotic and curiously arousing than the representational ones…but maybe I’m just accustomed to seeing the same damn thing all the time in gonzo netporn. Furthermore a loop of a jackhammering penis seems to accentuate hardcore penetration more than mocking it–which is what repetition often does to speeches. (I don’t mean that there are no individuals who enjoy this either… but let’s just stick to the visual-haptic affect of the images)

    I’m not trying to say “A means/causes B” in practice… but I am wondering in the most simple processual level: what does glitch do to an image in relationship to specific practices such as hex code editing or datamoshing? I have only tried the latter myself due to attraction to the aesthetic.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 5 months ago by jenninat0r jenninat0r.
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    I once tried reuploading some of my found footage porn-disruption videos on Redtube and YouPorn. They were rejected by moderators or never went live :p

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    @nickkegeyan

    I think what this thread is trying to undertake is the ideological structures that glitchporn can possibly reproduce or undercut. As I’ve mentioned in my post above and also touched on by Erica’s, representations of women that only appeal to men have been a large part of the net’s visual culture and also pop media, so if they are reproduced throughout history as such is there a problem?  So our discussion inevitably would be wrapped up in an analysis of porn and female/hetero/queer representation. I think this is especially important if female users are half the people on the internet, and are also the subject matter of a lot of other digital art art like vector girls, photomanipulation and anime. (I recall being 15 on deviantart and unquestionably browsing pages full of this.)

    Not to sound like a woman who is complaining (and for me to even think this, I’ve internalized male opinions on women’s views of porn, and even this year Anita Sarkeesian got into a lot of flack for analyzing sexualized tropes in video games), but women have different and varied relationships to porn, and especially hetero and hardcore porn. While pop media purports that sex/porn is something women can/should feel empowered to engage with and to appreciate others find this sexually threatening and shaming.

    I am an avid porn and fetish viewer, although a critical and inquisitive one. Sure glitch porn can be just plain fun and experimentation but for the same representations to be repeated over history makes some, if not many viewers hopeless and desensitized, and somewhat internalizing of  stereotypes.

    Other subject matter that are cliche to the internet like cats and beheadings, planes flying into Twin Towers (of course we can get worse and worse in our visual ethics here) have other frameworks of power around them that are similarly specific between different groups of people. I don’t think that there’s a way to ascertain what you can or can’t appropriate but it depends how one appropriates and how what that says about themselves. Glitching a point-of-view shot of a dickslap on a woman’s face seems to invite the same readings that it would with mainstream porn unfortunately, no matter how you “break the image”, however if you glitch it moshes into a beheaded cat, that meaning might change drastically.

    How can we use porn to change those meanings instead of reproducing it as a locus of male-dominant pleasure? Curt suggested erasure, I suggested selecting content with different perspectives and angles, and  Erica suggested distorting bimbo images…

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 6 months ago by jenninat0r jenninat0r.
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    hey guys, i’m really enjoy reading this thread, and of course having many deep thoughtz

    porn seems to go hand in hand with the development of computers and internet culture–since there were machines.

    I was listening to this informal survey of 100 years of computer art by Jason Scott (creator of textfiles.com) from NOTACON 2004. Now this is a bit lame the way he introduces this:

    “I’m going to step away from “it’s a boy” in a classic sense…we always try to intersperse pornography as much as possible…it plays such an important part in the world…(crowd cheers) Roxnanne is done using something called a remote teletype…a short way to send text messages…over ham radio”

    Apparently a softporn figure called “Roxanne” emerged in teletype.(unable to find this example online, but lo and behold, first search on teletype brings up a scantily clad woman advertising vintage printers.

    Scott later mentions how someone transferred an image from a playboy centerfold into letter type. i’m guessing this falls in line with the “lolwut s’just plain fun” reproduction but becomes a teaching moment i think; images that are casually culled and reproduce become a part of network history. the babe in the text is just a babe in text.  then eventually multi-sheets were used to create prints or murals.

    sooo in a way, people playing with computers back in the 60s were fiddling with digitizing and transcoding printed porn lol.

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 6 months ago by jenninat0r jenninat0r.
    in reply to: intro: Hello glitchxxx cultures thread focus #236
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    ^beauty. I am prompted to think of Faith Holland’s ideas on the feminine structure of the internet, “cosmic pussy” etc., or as she’s insinuated in her found footage supercuts, RIP Geocities

    http://www.faithholland.com/project/rip-geocities-2011/

     

    jenninat0r
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    Hey Curt,

    First all I had a lot of fun browsing your site.

    I would agree erasure and/or disruption/refusal to represent is a great tactic for commentary and resistance to the conventional representations of female sexuality.

    I for some reason always think Oliver Laric’s Versions 2010 voiceover can be applied to porn. “Degradiation followed display…The image was treated like the lowliest of objects…”

    (god yes how many of you are eye-rolling because I am mentioning that work again, because it is that brilliant although I suppose Jill Godmillow’s Harun Farocki remake is a firm precedent…what.ever.)

    I want to argue that “exposure” or I guess you mean the capturing and representation of explicit sexual behavior  is not necessarily exploitative, but moreso the context, angles, and point of views it offers and reproduces. (i.e. Cropped bodies, genital-centric shots, ejaculatory cliches, unrealistically willing female subject etc.) However

    Andrea Coates argues perhaps there needs to be more mainstream porn made from love-based relationships, or  I think there should be more point-of-view videos shot from women’s perspectives of the male and female body. I’d be a bit uncomfortable with the removal of sexual representation in terms of female representation–would seem to reinforce dichotomies that women can only be seen as sexual or not seen at all. (and I know you didn’t mean that in your post, I’m just speaking for art production in general). Knowing these gendered representations are never neutral means we need to invent some way to violate those conventions without removal and invisibility…

    • This reply was modified 7 years, 6 months ago by jenninat0r jenninat0r.
    in reply to: intro: Hello glitchxxx cultures thread focus #217
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    Perhaps pertinent to this discussion are female authored porn vids/movies. Please dump.

    Shu Lea Chang’s IKU (2000) is a sci-fi Japanese porn movie. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Nyt4UwgMsS0

    To complete the I.K.U. system, it is necessary to collect the orgasm data of every kind of person. So the GENOM Corporation sends out to New Tokyo seven sexy replicants “Reiko”, who can transform themselves depending on prople’s desires.

    “I.K.U.” is a sexy role-playing movie of orgasm hunting by the seven “Reiko”.

    (Iku means “orgasm” in Japanese.)

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