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we could make it happen during gli.tc/h
as a minithread or whatever the title for that type of thing would be. i know everyone is going to be busy running around and involved in other events during gli.tc/h but i think with everyone who’s expressed interest in doing a unity glitch gallery it’s definitely doable.
+i don’t know if he is on the working groups but kevin carey / yung pharoah does a lot of rad work with unity. not to speak for him or anything but i’m sure he’d like to contribute
count me in!
unity gallery would be rad!
+any other 3d/unity/animated would be awesome too =)15.11.2012 at 17:43 in reply to: theme 2: Artifacts –> Luncheon on the Grass, inheritance / gender, sex, others #444
i see tons of pop culture in the flickr group, including the NBA, Baseball, Conan O’brien, George Bush, cartoons, and star trek among others.
there’s also two things that pose a problem for your comparison:
1. the sample size definitely has to do with it though. the handful of posts in broken gifs is nothing compared to ~5,000 images of the flickr group. plus there is literally only one “porn” image in broken gifs.
2. the creators in each group are so different. the majority of content in the flickr group is created by “glitch artists” and members of the community. while broken gifs is more people who stumbled upon these images.
*to me the only thing crossing over between these two groups is glitch and glitch art*
i have a question for everyone though. what’s the problem with using the porn? glitch art to me is all about experimenting and trying things. the way these people are being talked about is crazy to me. labeling people as pimps and saying they’re metaphorically causing physical abuse to these women is actually starting to cause me “metaphorical physical harm.”
i don’t disagree that things should have meaning(s) but sometimes it’s not about making a work that has meaning. not everything is a surface for personal projections and uncovering hidden ideas and meanings. if someone wants to make something by all means make it. who is to say what’s okay to make and what’s not okay to make? if people want to make porn + glitch maybe there just exploring glitch art and using porn as there means of doing so. no one has a problem with glitching an image of a cat? but through this dialogue it sounds like that would be animal cruelty.14.11.2012 at 23:37 in reply to: theme 2: Artifacts –> Luncheon on the Grass, inheritance / gender, sex, others #436
@Rosa + @Adam
i’m quite familiar with the tumblr community, i know the majority of the porn + glitch blogs. i contacted the person behind the well known one: porn-glitch. i’m waiting on a response from them. when i do get the response i will let everyone know. to be honest though i don’t quite feel comfortable being the middle man in this situation, at least right now. labeling them “pimps” before talking to them sets up a potentially hostile environment for them. but i will keep everyone in the loop.
as i read and skimmed through the last group of posts i was seeing a lot of why(s). i want to take a shot at answering these, at least through my personal experience(s) and involvement in some of these communities.
“It seems to me that the porn glitches are not outside (or inside) but that there is not much difference between the glitch art porn use and the tumblrs. It’s a continuous flow and it looks like that gif, if I am seeing this right, came from redit, was published to dirtynewmedia’s (a group presenting @ gli.tc/h) tumblr and then got reposted in pornoglitchy. I am not arguing for or against the work here, I am just questioning whether the high (new media art) /low (commercial, tumblr) art dichotomy that you and Nick Kegeyan constructed is all that relevant if it’s the same works making their way through both cultures.”
i don’t think those two tumblrs, or grouping(s) of tumblrs can create that type of high art / low art dichotomy. i don’t think i started or helped start that, if i did i take it back? the divide is not the person(s) involved but rather there “education” on/in regards to glitch. if you trace back that reddit gif to the broken gifs group on reddit and read a few of the comments on posts you can notice a lack of “education” on glitch/glitch art. conversations like: “I don’t understand why this effect is a ‘thing’ now.” the response to that is: “Because it looks cool.” (from: mickey mouse) to me this is the divide. of course i don’t know if either of these people went on to get more info or anything of the sort but i know when i asked, “what is this?” i received tons and tons of info, tutorials, readings, philosophies, etc. on the subject.
“Moving beyond this, my question to the artists reblogging, likeing, sharing, and appropriating these gifs is… why? What interests you about these gifs? I’d like to start haveing that convo.”
i think thats a really valid question to ask and the convo that should be happening. here is my take:
why are these gifs being liked/reblogged/shared (LRS)? theres a bunch of reasons to reblog and like these posts, depending on who you are/what your doing on tumblr. if you want to be part of a community your going to LRS peoples post to break into it. if you LRS peoples content they might look at yours and LRS you back. follow for follow is big on tumblr so if you follow someone, reblog and like a lot of there stuff they’ll do the same for you or give you a shout out or something.
another reason is my idea of porn + glitch in general. when you watch porn online it tends to be glitchy, broken, datamoshy, compressed, etc. the connection between the two is pretty direct for me. in general sex is pretty interesting to the average tumblr user, the age of tumblr users is a huge factor in this. you need to be 18 (21 in some places) to go to a porn site (legally) but you only need to be 13 to get on tumblr.
other reasons people like them:
1. bright colors and not too many of them. it looks really awesome and pops out on your dashboard getting more attention.
2. making a lot of something. it’s comfortable to follow someone who keeps posting (and posting a lot of) something you like
i’m just gonna quote what theo said because i agree with him, especially what i bolded.
“the whole idea of glitch porn/compression porn whatever it is as possible medium for artistic exploration needs to just be thrown out. glitch porn and that ridiculous tumblr(s) has a lot more in common with “lowbrow” tumblr porn culture than it is does with any sort of online art culture in terms of critical exploration. i’d rather have someone present unglitched porn that truly makes them feel horny as an art project since it’s about 1000% more honest.”
- This reply was modified 7 years, 3 months ago by nickkegeyan.
i believe that there are three forms of “death” here. there is zombie media which is covered greatly in the first post.
then there is dead, which Rosa captured really well, in her <a href=”http://working.gli.tc/forums/topic/zombie-media/#post-262>second post in this thread</a>.
finally, there is an extinct media. this would be something that has reached it’s end, much like when an animal is extinct, it’s gone forever [except for the weirdness that is bringing extinct animals back to existence as clones i.e. the wolly mammoth (http://newsfeed.time.com/2012/03/14/the-woolly-mammoths-return-scientists-plan-to-clone-extinct-creature/#ixzz26I6RhUwx)]. for a medium to reach extinction it would have to essentially disappear entirely.
you could even go a step further and apply the IUCN conservation status model (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Conservation_status) or a similar classification system.